{"id":611,"date":"2012-06-25T14:44:02","date_gmt":"2012-06-25T14:44:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/?p=611"},"modified":"2012-06-25T15:19:04","modified_gmt":"2012-06-25T15:19:04","slug":"too-many-maps-spoil-the-cumbria-online-mapping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/?p=611","title":{"rendered":"UK local online #mapping is a stupid mess&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_616\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-616\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/YDNP.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-616\" title=\"YDNP\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/YDNP.jpg?resize=300%2C202\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/YDNP.jpg?resize=300%2C202&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/YDNP.jpg?w=1005&amp;ssl=1 1005w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-616\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Yuck, online mapping 1990s style<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Today something is bothering me, \u00a0 it has been bubbling away since I wrote this post\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/?p=241\">&#8220;The Awful mess of Local Plans online&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0and I can&#8217;t contain it anymore.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_612\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-612\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-612 \" title=\"cumbriaCC\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC.jpg?resize=300%2C175\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"175\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC.jpg?resize=300%2C175&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC.jpg?resize=1024%2C598&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC.jpg?w=1897&amp;ssl=1 1897w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC.jpg?w=1392 1392w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-612\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Where&#8217;s my broadband coordinator? Cumbria CC<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Cumbria as a geographic area I think has a lot of online maps and they all vary in quality and\u00a0usability. \u00a0 Sometimes it looks like the people who are operating them haven&#8217;t told other departments what they are doing&#8230;. to be fair they probably have but red tape has got in the way&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Lets take\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/maps.google.co.uk\/maps?q=sedbergh&amp;hl=en&amp;sll=53.800651,-4.064941&amp;sspn=8.375259,22.390137&amp;t=h&amp;hnear=Sedbergh,+Cumbria,+United+Kingdom&amp;z=15\">Sedbergh<\/a>\u00a0(yes I used Google Maps!) for example, if I want to see what services my local authorities&#8217; provide on a map I can go here for\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/maps.cumbria.gov.uk\/\">Cumbria CC services<\/a>\u00a0but if I want to see their Public Rights of Way mapping (and the two national parks),<a href=\"http:\/\/hims.cumbria.gov.uk\/WIP2\/?cg=prow\">\u00a0I have to go here<\/a>. \u00a0Now Cumbria also has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cumbria.gov.uk\/planning-environment\/countryside\/historic-environment\/HER_online.asp\">a Historic Environment Record<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gis1.cumbria.gov.uk\/eggp\/custom\/shell\/launcher.asp\">their mapping is here<\/a>\u00a0(seriously slow &amp; doesn&#8217;t always work).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_613\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-613\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC_PROW.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-613 \" title=\"cumbriaCC_PROW\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC_PROW.jpg?resize=300%2C186\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"186\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC_PROW.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC_PROW.jpg?resize=1024%2C636&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC_PROW.jpg?w=1767&amp;ssl=1 1767w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaCC_PROW.jpg?w=1392 1392w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-613\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Walk this way , Cumbria PROW map<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_624\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-624\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaHER.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-624\" title=\"cumbriaHER\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaHER.jpg?resize=300%2C162\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"162\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaHER.jpg?resize=300%2C162&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaHER.jpg?resize=1024%2C553&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/cumbriaHER.jpg?w=1393&amp;ssl=1 1393w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-624\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cumbria&#8217;s Historic Environment Record mapping is shit, no really<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Now here&#8217;s the fun bit,<a href=\"http:\/\/webgis.southlakeland.gov.uk\/webgis\/bingis.html\"> bins, building control and libraries are dealt with by South Lakeland DC\u00a0<\/a>. \u00a0 Ah, but if I want to see my local plan online rather than via PDF I have to go to the <a href=\"http:\/\/gis.nationalparks.gov.uk\/Map\/map.asp?txtfind=&amp;layer=YDNPA-NPC&amp;Geoset=YDNPA\">Yorkshire Dales online GIS here.<\/a> \u00a0 Oh and if I forget what Local Authority I&#8217;m in <a href=\"http:\/\/eforms.eden.gov.uk\/edenmap\/Welcome.aspx\">Eden DC provide some mapping for part of Sedbergh too<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_614\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-614\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Eden.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-614\" title=\"Eden\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Eden.jpg?resize=300%2C247\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"247\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Eden.jpg?resize=300%2C247&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Eden.jpg?resize=1024%2C845&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Eden.jpg?w=1373&amp;ssl=1 1373w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-614\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Eden Web Mapping, basic but okay?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_615\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-615\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/SouthLakes.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-615\" title=\"SouthLakes\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/SouthLakes.jpg?resize=300%2C172\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"172\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/SouthLakes.jpg?resize=300%2C172&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/SouthLakes.jpg?resize=1024%2C588&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/SouthLakes.jpg?w=1915&amp;ssl=1 1915w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/SouthLakes.jpg?w=1392 1392w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-615\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">South Lakeland&#8217;s mapping just like Barrow&#8217;s and I quite like it..<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>All these maps provide detailed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk\/oswebsite\/products\/os-mastermap\/index.html\">OS Mastermap level mapping<\/a>. \u00a0Some are symbolised quite well, others not so well, I&#8217;ve always liked<a href=\"http:\/\/www.barrowbc.gov.uk\/default.aspx?page=1629\"> Barrow&#8217;s online GIS<\/a> which South Lakeland seem to use, but that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a bit technical <a href=\"http:\/\/new.lga.gov.uk\/lga\/aio\/20246680\">and I hear open source<\/a>\u00a0[PDF]. \u00a0 I also worry when watermarks aren&#8217;t done well.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>As a resident I shouldn&#8217;t have to check 5 different online maps to check out what&#8217;s happening in my area. \u00a0I certainly\u00a0shouldn&#8217;t\u00a0have to learn how each one operates!<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span>(look I used <strong>bold<\/strong> and <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">underline<\/span> I must be serious)<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t help wondering why no one is trying to get a national government mapping organisation whereby everyone gets the same online mapping frontend\/interface but is in charge of their own data. A<a href=\"http:\/\/www.planningportal.gov.uk\">\u00a0bit like the Planning Portal<\/a>\u00a0but for publishing data not just\u00a0receiving\u00a0it. \u00a0If people think this can&#8217;t be done, I think people working on the <a href=\"http:\/\/location.defra.gov.uk\/inspire\/\">EU&#8217;s INSPIRE directive might say otherwise<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What I would like to see is web mapping become central not just an after thought to local and national government websites. \u00a0 Yes there is a place of localisation (depending on usage, tourism, history etc&#8230;). \u00a0 But a national web mapping site is needed so we can\u00a0seamlessly\u00a0browse geographically adjacent datasets. \u00a0 This would be great not just for residents but also policy makers, politicians and professionals. \u00a0Imagine for example, seeing planning statistics and local plans for neighbouring authorities on one\u00a0seamless\u00a0map? \u00a0 Local councillors could see how neighbouring areas with similar demographics are doing. \u00a0Think how easy consultation with neighbouring\u00a0councils\u00a0could be!<\/p>\n<p>Enough of my musings, I&#8217;m off to make a map for a local authority in Iraq&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related Posts<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/?p=68\">Cumbria GIS &#8211; Where are those datasets?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geoplanit.co.uk\/?p=241\">The Awful mess of Local Plans online<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today something is bothering me, \u00a0 it has been bubbling away since I wrote this post\u00a0&#8220;The Awful mess of Local Plans online&#8221;\u00a0and I can&#8217;t contain it anymore. 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